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 Post subject: Countersteering
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:35 am 
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Location: Chesterfield county, Va.
I believe most of us nowadays use countersteering. It's easy handling & quick if necessary to use to avoid an accident. I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed something since I've had my FLHTCi. When I countersteer using the typical "push forward on handlebar for the direction you want to go" method, all works fine & dandy. However, at least on this model tour bike, I've noticed the countersteering is smoother, more steady to do the "pull back on opposite side of the way you want to go" method. I know this sounds crazy but wondering if anyone else has noticed or practiced this? If I use this method, for instance, in countersteering around a curve where there may be a bump...or whatever...you feel less of the bump in the turn & handlebars hardly relay the message back that you just went over a bump...cause it so smooth & steady. If you do it the typical "push to go" method you feel the bump & unsteadiness that the bump projects more. Am I crazy? If you've never compared both, try it. See if you get the same results.


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 Post subject: Re: Countersteering
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:04 pm 
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I've been riding my bike like that since I got it. Push in the direction you want to go. I did try the pull method a few times over the years but I have always gone back to the push style. It seems to be just the opposite for me. The bike is very stable when I push. I guess my center of balance is more neutral and the bike balances better on the push. I guess the push puts more rider weight on the inside of the turn on my RoadKing.

I was reading an entry from one of those police rodeo riders and he said he used the push method - sold me.
I guess if you get better results with the pull, than it's best to go with it. Different bikes, different center of gravity, different riding styles - It's all good!!


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 Post subject: Re: Countersteering
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:21 pm 
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Road King this is the first bike I've had that pulling is smoother. I'm in agreement that it might depend which bike. Something is different here that I'll probably never figure out....like you say, center of gravity....whatever. :icon_cheesygrin:


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 Post subject: Re: Countersteering
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:11 am 
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AJ, what you are experiencing has to do with but is not limited to; length of wheel base, weight of bike, angle of steering head (rake), size and width of tires, suspension and damping, and finally rider input. The modern motorcycle chassis engineer is apparently part engineer, part magician, and part practitioner of black magic. Unless you are obsessive compulsive like me, don't waste too much time trying to understand what is going on, just enjoy what those guys have given you to ride. They really do amazing work.


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